tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post112576694613482017..comments2023-11-15T17:55:18.051-05:00Comments on MarkDaniels.Blogspot.com: Race and the Response to Katrina?Mark Danielshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18205344762960756655noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1125966704181408492005-09-05T20:31:00.000-04:002005-09-05T20:31:00.000-04:00I just finished my post about the photos/racism is...I just finished <A HREF="http://purplekangaroopuzzle.blogspot.com/2005/09/lets-pick-couple-of-random-people-and.html" REL="nofollow">my post</A> about the photos/racism issue, Mark. I'd value your feedback if you have the time and the inclination.purple_kangaroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02543172194041505144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1125880487072655682005-09-04T20:34:00.000-04:002005-09-04T20:34:00.000-04:00Purple: I was unaware of the photographers' identi...Purple: <BR/>I was unaware of the photographers' identitites and certainly I wouldn't suggest that they were in any way responsible for the captions associated with their pictures. <BR/><BR/>Frankly, I think that you and I are in agreement on all of this stuff. I look forward to reading your blog post on this subject.<BR/><BR/>MarkMark Danielshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205344762960756655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1125872323140851842005-09-04T18:18:00.000-04:002005-09-04T18:18:00.000-04:00Mark, you're right that racism is a sin and is all...Mark, you're right that racism is a sin and is all too common--not just in our culture, but worldwide. And I agree with you that racism, at least in the broad picture, had nothing to do with the response or lack thereof in NO. I agree with your general points.<BR/><BR/>It was just the use of that AP photo as an example of racism and calling it "offensive and telling" that I was objecting to. <BR/><BR/>I really feel sorry for the photographers Chris Graythen and Dave Martin, who are being singled out and being accused of racism all over the internet. They are real, individual people. They have names. They have feelings. And they don't appreciate being accused of being racist, just like I wouldn't in their situation.<BR/><BR/>But I guess I should stop complaining about it on your blog and write a post on my own. :)purple_kangaroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02543172194041505144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1125834927877639982005-09-04T07:55:00.000-04:002005-09-04T07:55:00.000-04:00Purple:Thank you for your comments and especially,...Purple:<BR/>Thank you for your comments and especially, for couching them so graciously. I appreciate that!<BR/><BR/>In my response to Mark Congdon's comments above, I do acknowledge and apologize that I wasn't fair to the AP. I looked before I leapt and I regret that.<BR/><BR/>I do think that racism is endemic to our culture and in saying that, if I am pointing an accusatory finger, it lands on me as well. <BR/><BR/>But, as I tried to say, perhaps ineffectively, in the original post, I don't believe that racism lay behind what seemed like delays in response to Hurricane Katrina. It seems facile and unfair to even imply that. The unexpected breaching of levees, yes. Incompetence, maybe. Unclear lines of authority, probably. But I'm confident that racism had nothing to do with the delayed help arriving in New Orleans.<BR/><BR/>Thank you very much for caring enough to write. God bless you!<BR/><BR/>MarkMark Danielshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205344762960756655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1125821197289936522005-09-04T04:06:00.000-04:002005-09-04T04:06:00.000-04:00A lot of bloggers and others have made a very stro...A lot of bloggers and others have made a very strong judgement and accusation against the press organizations and the photographers, which was completely without basis. I think that's sad--and wrong. I think that kind of judgement is the type talked about in the "judge not lest ye be judged" passages. Yes, we should call sin sin . . . but we'd better be very sure of the facts before we do.<BR/><BR/>You know that I have great respect for you in general, Mark. But I think this discussion of the two photos is one example of people getting carried away by baseless gossip and, frankly, sinning against innocent people by making these accusations publicly. <BR/><BR/>Who is going to apoligize to the photographers and the news organizations for plastering these false accusations of racism all over the internet?purple_kangaroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02543172194041505144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1125820906656018762005-09-04T04:01:00.000-04:002005-09-04T04:01:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.purple_kangaroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02543172194041505144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1125820566225726432005-09-04T03:56:00.000-04:002005-09-04T03:56:00.000-04:00Another thing about the photos, Mark D.: Both news...Another thing about the photos, Mark D.: Both news organizations have now made statements regarding them. <BR/><BR/>The captions were actually written by the photographers, who obviously had more context to work from. <BR/><BR/>One saw the guy coming out of the store laden with stuff he'd taken. But the photographer who took the picture of the couple who "found" the items said that people were just picking up food etc. from the water as they floated out the door of a doorless store. Snopes.com now has a post dealing with this issue. Follow the links and read around a bit-- <A HREF="http://www.snopes.com/photos/katrina/looters.asp" REL="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/photos/katrina/looters.asp</A><BR/><BR/>IMHO it's rather ridiculous to jump to conclusions about this sort of thing. Would it hurt to give the photographers the benefit of the doubt and assume that, yes, they know more about the situation than we do? Why assume the reason for the different captions is racism or some other bad motive?purple_kangaroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02543172194041505144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1125786146881481252005-09-03T18:22:00.000-04:002005-09-03T18:22:00.000-04:00Mark:You are right and feel terrible that I failed...Mark:<BR/>You are right and feel terrible that I failed to be more observant!Mark Danielshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205344762960756655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1125785892671905752005-09-03T18:18:00.000-04:002005-09-03T18:18:00.000-04:00Mark,Since that second photo, and its caption, wer...Mark,<BR/><BR/>Since that second photo, and its caption, were from a French news source (not the AP), it seems a bit hard to say that the captions, when put together, show <I>American</I> racism. In fact, since they are from completely different news organizations, in completely different countries, with completely different standards and rules, it seems strange to me to even compare them at all.<BR/><BR/>MarkMarkChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14783588922999884233noreply@blogger.com