tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post4538830734521468965..comments2023-11-15T17:55:18.051-05:00Comments on MarkDaniels.Blogspot.com: Is This Cheney's Agnew Moment?Mark Danielshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18205344762960756655noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-10869991195871251522007-03-07T01:09:00.000-05:002007-03-07T01:09:00.000-05:00Dad makes him appoint Jeb.Dad makes him appoint Jeb.lwshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17166225364287593478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-73222458892579357702007-03-06T18:22:00.000-05:002007-03-06T18:22:00.000-05:00DJ:I'm glad you piled on. Thanks for the follow-up...DJ:<BR/>I'm glad you piled on. Thanks for the follow-up.<BR/><BR/>Kevin:<BR/>The analogy I drew was not between Agnew's crime and that of Scooter Libby. The analogy is between the damage Agnew could have done to Nixon had he not resigned and the damage Cheney might cause Bush if he doesn't follow the same course. <BR/><BR/>Had Agnew stayed on, a weakened Nixon White House would have confronted the question of whether it would expend its ever-depleting political capital on defending Agnew or cut him loose. The Bush White House may confront a similar moment with regard to Cheney. My point was political and historical.<BR/><BR/>MarkMark Danielshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205344762960756655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-38141310964594555322007-03-06T18:11:00.000-05:002007-03-06T18:11:00.000-05:00Not to pile on, but you missed the mark again abou...Not to pile on, but you missed the mark again about Calhoun. He resigned not from the Adams Administration, but from the first Jackson Administration. The quick story is that Jackson supported the protectionist Tariff of 1832, Calhoun endorsed and promoted South Carolina's illegal nullification of the federal statute, South Carolina passed its so-called Nullification Ordinance, Jackson threatened to lead troops into South Carolina, and Calhoun resigned in protest when a Senate seat from South Carolina opened up at the end of 1832.<BR/><BR/>Back to the books, dude!DJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13166856057546061187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-53020306877594506512007-03-06T17:04:00.000-05:002007-03-06T17:04:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mark Danielshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205344762960756655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-29394609001579217272007-03-06T15:45:00.000-05:002007-03-06T15:45:00.000-05:00Deborah (above) states my wish and desire. However...Deborah (above) states my wish and desire. However, I do not feel that is a likely event. I even have a Rice for Pres weblog which i ran for many months, but Condi seems straight in her conviction to not run.<BR/><BR/>Still.....<BR/><BR/>How about Rice/Guiliani?<BR/><BR/>DukeDuke of DeLandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06838022714970116981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-82724942159952919872007-03-06T15:32:00.000-05:002007-03-06T15:32:00.000-05:00This is nuts. So long as Cheney is VP, he's (more...This is nuts. So long as Cheney is VP, he's (more or less) immune from criminal prosecution. Why would he jump out of the safety of the EOB and into the vipers nest of Fitzgerald grand juries, rogue international courts, and civil litigants looking to score political points with meritless law suits? He wouldn't. No matter how loyal of a soldier he is.<BR/><BR/>Much better to ride this one out in saftey and comfort--and with the best guaranteed medical treatment in the world.DJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13166856057546061187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-33198918826821503842007-03-06T15:19:00.000-05:002007-03-06T15:19:00.000-05:00He'd be the third: Calhoun was the first, Agnew t...He'd be the third: Calhoun was the first, Agnew the second.Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16756729751592560171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-87224654987155772012007-03-06T14:48:00.000-05:002007-03-06T14:48:00.000-05:00Yes, I believe Dick Cheney will resign, likely cit...Yes, I believe Dick Cheney will resign, likely citing his health. There have been rumors to this effect, anyway, for about a year. Rice will ascend to the vice presidency.<BR/><BR/>If President Bush had the foresight to dump Rumsfeld and Cheney before the 2006 elections, the results might have been vastly different.<BR/><BR/>This administration's influence was effectively over when the Senate first stood up to this administration on torture. It now has zero credibility.Deborah Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07681456264047358861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-6258875466126175932007-03-06T13:48:00.000-05:002007-03-06T13:48:00.000-05:00Cheney resigning would ultimately help the Republi...Cheney resigning would ultimately help the Republicans in 2008, but it would help them even more if Bush puts someone who *would* run for the presidency in as Veep. Sure, it throws the primary process into disarray, and the current frontrunners would be furious (assuming they aren't the one picked), but the current frontrunners have major issues to overcome, like flip-flopping on liberal positions, or not flip-flopping on liberal positions, or divorce, or brittle easily-angered personalities, or corruption, etc. The whole picture could change overnight if Bush picked a good candidate for a veep.<BR/><BR/>But you've also admitted something else that instapundit and lots of other commentators on the right refuse to admit: it looks bad for Cheney. The usual right-wing spin is that Libby did nothing wrong, but that holds little water. He was lying to protect someone, and so now that it's not so easy to say that there was never any evidence he actually lied, the obvious question is: who was he trying to protect?<BR/><BR/>And although it would make sense for the Bush administration to defuse this question, I seriously doubt Cheney will resign. Bush isn't inclined to ask anyone to resign, no matter how badly they do their job, until it's impossible to do otherwise. Bush can't force him to resign, and Cheney doesn't seem like the type who would give up so easily. But I hope I'm wrong about that.Willy Barrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481394262018660771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-53787756481391934742007-03-06T13:47:00.000-05:002007-03-06T13:47:00.000-05:00I surmised about Cheney resigning at this time las...I surmised about Cheney resigning at this time last year, but my reasoning was based on health/age issues combined with the likelihood of lame-duckness for Pres. Bush in 2007-8. Now that he has been diagnosed with blood clots and travel is likely to be diminished, I believe more than ever that he will resign. http://skymusings.blogspot.com/2007/03/little-smirking.html<BR/><BR/>Your thoughts on the Agnew-like parallels are very interesting and I believe will also factor in the VP's decision.Skymusehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01995702509294854444noreply@blogger.com