tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post115496240973520011..comments2023-11-15T17:55:18.051-05:00Comments on MarkDaniels.Blogspot.com: So What Are We Going to Do About It?Mark Danielshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18205344762960756655noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1156162353787274762006-08-21T08:12:00.000-04:002006-08-21T08:12:00.000-04:00I am here from Dr John's blog.I wonder if telling ...I am here from Dr John's blog.<BR/>I wonder if telling the music makers to tune down their message will work because they are writing that material to get badk at society I think. Groups like the Girls and Boys club would have more chance of helping. I saw on TV yesterday I woman who taught at risk kids polo. She got very envolved with their lives.B.R.Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07740157452716340554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1155055815156112352006-08-08T12:50:00.000-04:002006-08-08T12:50:00.000-04:00Ice:You're right that family dysfunctionality is t...Ice:<BR/>You're right that family dysfunctionality is the key issue. To my mind, that is a profoundly spiritual matter.<BR/><BR/>But given that many families are dysfunctional, vacuums are created in the lives of children. Someone needs to speak a word on behalf of these lost children.<BR/><BR/>By the way, the existence of these vacuums in children's lives is why I serve on the board of our area's Boys and Girls Club. I see B&G as an organization that gives "at risk" kids and all kids the chance to get a new vision of themselves in spite of their home situations.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your very thoughtful comments...great points!<BR/><BR/>MarkMark Danielshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205344762960756655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1155048340706240832006-08-08T10:45:00.000-04:002006-08-08T10:45:00.000-04:00Mark, I'm willing to accept that feedback loops ex...Mark, I'm willing to accept that feedback loops exist. But that still doesn't mean correlation equals causation, and certainly doesn't mean that this study has proven this point. Frankly, psychological studies just don't have much credibility with me, as too often they completely fail to even attempt any kind of scientific rigor.<BR/><BR/>While these kinds of entertainment have some influence on the overall culture, it is also true that the overall culture has much influence on the entertainment it consumes. Are teens behaving badly because of what they hear on the radio (Does nayone listen to the radio anymore? How out of touch am I?), or are they gravitating to music that describes the way they're living?<BR/><BR/>I can't help but remember my own youth and the people I knew. The boys who had shown an early propensity to violence tended to end up getting into all kinds of violent entertainment when they got older. <BR/><BR/>This (my youth back in first in second grade) was far enough back that my neighborhood didn't have cable. We had the three networks, a PBS station, and the occasional independent station. And this was well before MTV came along, or video games. And yet, the kids who were always starting fights back then were the same ones getting in much more serious trouble years later. Am I supposed to believe that REO Speedwagon and Pac-Man pushed them over the edge? Or is it that these children, trouble-makers from the time I met them, had simply gotten older, bigger and more hormonally charged, and were therefore capable of doing more damage? At least a good chunk of it has to be the latter.<BR/><BR/>As for the girls, the ones who were always managing to get attention by acting up in inappropriate ways were often (usually) the ones who ended up pregnant before HS graduation, or worse. <BR/><BR/>Since I was young, teen pregnancy rates have gone up, come down, and I believe are rising again. Since the culture has only gotten cruder since I was young, and never more chaste, why the dip for several years?<BR/><BR/>I personally believe that dysfunctional families are far more problematic than the 'youth music culture', and that until that problem is corrected, it won't matter what songs are on the radio.Icepickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616554052707230326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1155042435905547422006-08-08T09:07:00.000-04:002006-08-08T09:07:00.000-04:00dcypi:You may not have noticed, but the study was ...dcypi:<BR/>You may not have noticed, but the study was funded by the RAND Corporation. This think tank has usually been accused of having a liberal bias, not a conservative one, making the study's findings all the more interesting.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your comments.<BR/><BR/>MarkMark Danielshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205344762960756655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1155039002492724702006-08-08T08:10:00.000-04:002006-08-08T08:10:00.000-04:00a study found....How often do we read these words ...a study found....<BR/><BR/>How often do we read these words and wonder if it's just another agenda being pushed? Nowhere does it make mention of the funding, conservative perhaps?<BR/><BR/>Of course kids who have sex and going to listen to that sort of music, its like the fact that kids who like cars buy car magazines.urbanmikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03397842241814682440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1155003067617612932006-08-07T22:11:00.000-04:002006-08-07T22:11:00.000-04:00FB:I am completely opposed to censorship. I also t...FB:<BR/>I am completely opposed to censorship. I also think that parents need to be more involved. <BR/><BR/>But many parents are uninvolved and I think that responsible society needs to let the record labels know how we feel about the poison they're feeding kids.<BR/><BR/>MarkMark Danielshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205344762960756655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1155002291410584972006-08-07T21:58:00.000-04:002006-08-07T21:58:00.000-04:00It is hard for me to agree with anything regarding...It is hard for me to agree with anything regarding censorship of music. But I do see the concern. It is a tricky subject. I think it certainly should be cause for parents to become more involved in what their kids are listening to.:P fuzzboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07704568822288346593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1155000990964133962006-08-07T21:36:00.000-04:002006-08-07T21:36:00.000-04:00Ice:I agree with your conclusion as it relates to ...Ice:<BR/>I agree with your conclusion as it relates to the second study, for which scant information was provided.<BR/><BR/>But it seems to me that the music study did a pretty good job of isolating music as an influence.<BR/><BR/>MarkMark Danielshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205344762960756655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543355.post-1154984769173953502006-08-07T17:06:00.000-04:002006-08-07T17:06:00.000-04:00I see the study about children and teens watching ...I see the study about children and teens watching pro-wrestliis in the story as well. To both these studies I have the same comment:<BR/><BR/>Correlation does not equal causation.Icepickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616554052707230326noreply@blogger.com